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  • Paige
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    Hello,

    We have a candidates who is originally from Germany, they would like to undertake a standard, but are yet to obtain an NINO.

    Will this jeopardise his eligibility?

    I’m aware for SFA data send we will only get an error but what about at audit?

    Any help would greatly be appreciated

     
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    john.pink
    Participant

    Hi Paige
    As far as I know, if you have an error you won’t be drawing down any funding, so the auditor won’t have anything to audit. The problem will be how quickly you get the NIno to remove the error and get paid, and that doesn’t seem to be a predictable length of time.

     
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    Cris Hale
    Participant

    Hi Paige,

    You only get an error if the NI number returned is wrong. If none is returned, it will still show up on PDSAT, but I think that’s more to encourage the provider to get the number wherever possible than to punish them for not having it.

    While I believe it has match funding relevance, it certainly doesn’t affect eligibility for funding from the SFA, so I would advise putting him on.

    Cris

     
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    Paige
    Participant

    Hi both,

    Thank you-much appreciated

    Regards

    Paige

     
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    Martin West
    Participant

    Hi All,
    The Employer Rules require for eligibility the following:
    3. Have I checked the eligibility of the apprentice?
    Eligibility checks include, but are not limited to:
    • having the right to work in England
    • spending at least 50% of their working hours in England
    • the apprentice must work for you, or a connected company, or connected charity as defined by HMRC
    The references to HMRC and the requirements of the ILR specifications require a NI number in the correct format see below:
    Providers should treat completion of this field as compulsory for apprentices and must obtain an apprentice’s NI number on start: this will be validated for programmes funded through a contract for services with the employer (Learning Delivery FAM Type = ACT1). Learners who do not know their NI number should be encouraged to obtain it by the provider. All employed status learners must have NI numbers in order to be paid by the employer.
    Validation rules require that a NI number in the correct format is returned for Apprenticeships funded from the Levy from May 2017.
    HTH

     
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    Cris Hale
    Participant

    Hi Martin,

    Is this for funding from a source other than the SFA? I’m not familiar with the levy rules yet, so thanks for that point, but I also haven’t heard of these Employer Rules before. Are they for employers delivering their own training?

    Regards,
    Cris

     
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    Martin West
    Participant

    Hi Cris,
    This document applies from May 2017 and sets out the guidance which will apply to all employers participating in the apprenticeship programme. It also includes the funding rules which will apply to all levy-paying employers participating in the apprenticeship programme through a digital account on the apprenticeship service.
    HTH

     
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    Cris Hale
    Participant

    Hi Martin,

    Ah, as long as they’re not something I should have been following up until now!
    Thanks for that,

    Cris

     
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